For today’s episode we submit to the Curse-O-Meter the curious history of collecting haunted items. But before that, we’ll also talk about what happens when you try to use witchcraft on your president, a time traveler’s warnings for 2025, and when your high school teacher identifies as a cat.
And as a bonus treat, also joining us in today’s episode is special Ghost-Host Sydney.
THE NEWS:
-Warnings from A Time Traveller
TRANSCRIPT:
Hello, probably cursed listeners. In today’s episode, we submit to the Curse-O-Meter the curious history of collecting haunted items. But before that, we’ll also talk about what happens when you try to use witchcraft on your president, a time traveler’s warnings for 2025, and when your high school teacher identifies as a cat. And as a bonus treat, also joining us in today’s episode is special ghost host, Sydney. Hi. I’m Chris.
This is Sheryl. I’m Sydney. I’m listening to the ghost stories. Yeah. I think, I have no idea what I’m doing here.
Well, we’ll let things unfold here for you. Excellent. We like you better when you’re unprepared. If you had listened to our previous podcast, I went outside today. You’ll recognize Sydney’s voice.
Yeah, I was there. I went outside sometimes.
And it’s been a while since we recorded. How do you feel about being back in the saddle?
It’s exciting. There’s headphones now. So things have changed a lot.
Is it enough to bring you back?
The headphone? Oh, to full-time podcasting? I don’t know. I’m lazy. It’s hard to do stuff and things.
And since we finished the previous podcast, have you gone outside anymore?
No. Never? Not even one time.
Okay. You made good on your promise.
Yeah. Okay. I went outside a couple times, but just… You were here now. Yeah. Exactly. I came here.
And as we do at the start of every episode, we will calibrate the Lord-Kanarvan Curse-O-Meter with stories from recent articles. Get our meter nice and calibrated.
The fuck is a Curse-O-Meter? Can we swear on this one? Sure. You can swear. What’s a Curse-O-Meter, though?
It is our fantabulous AI machine. It allows us to determine the cursedness of all things. Excellent. Seems fake. It’s totally real. 100%. 100%. Sam Altman worked on it with us. Oh, yeah. Directly. And he was in this very room. Wow.
We had all sorts of cursed objects and we were waving in front of the Curse-O-Meter and it’s fully up and trained now. Okay. Right. So the first news story I have here. The witchcraft trial that is captured a Southern African nation. This is written by Jacob Zimba on February 24th for the independent.co.uk. Two men in Zambia are accused of possessing charms and practicing witchcraft and intending to harm the Zambian president.
Can we do the same thing with the current president in the US? I think so.
Excellent. And the US does not have witchcraft laws as far as I know, so.
I think he’s been witchcrafted, but like not in our favor. Well. It’s getting wild down there.
Maybe he’s like a zombie and he’s just being puveted. Could be. Do you think Musk put the neural ink inside him and he’s just controlling him like a machine? Like that episode of Star Trek where they remote controlled Spock?
I think if he had done that, then Trump would talk less. That’s how I would calibrate a neural chain. That’s a very linked thing.
Possibly. Police say the men were arrested in a hotel room in December after a cleaner reported hearing strange noises. They were found in possession of a bottled chameleon and other items including a mysterious white powder, a red cloth, and an unidentified animal’s tail. Eww. The men also face charges of cruelty to animals.
Yeah. Sounds about right. Eww.
Police said one man confessed they had been hired for a curse to kill the president. He testified in court they were promised more than $1 million. Prosecutors alleged the two men were hired by a brother of a former lawmaker who is now on the run to curse the Zambian president. The trial has become a source of fascination in Zambia which reflects a belief in forms of magic and supernatural phenomena that remains in parts of the continent. Zambia’s Witchcraft Act was passed in 1914 when Zambia was part of the British sphere of influence. The Act defines practicing witchcraft as pretending to exercise any kind of supernatural power witchcraft sorcery or enchantment calculated to cause fear, annoyance, or injury.
It’s good to know that Zambia ended up with the same sort of pretending to practice witchcraft laws that we had here.
So, like, if you’re doing it for real you’re in the clear.
In Canada that was the case. Right. Yeah.
You just can’t do fake witchcraft. That’s correct. Zambia’s a little different, I think. But if you’re not pretending. If you believe it’s real. Yeah, then you’re not pretending. No, you’re also getting trouble. Well, that seems wrong.
You want people to be having jars full of chameleon tails?
Look, I just think, no, I don’t want them to have. Well, don’t chameleons grow their tails back? Some lizards do. So now you’re okay. I just think that as long as you’re doing real rich craft and no animals are harmed, maybe they pick those tails up off the ground. Suspicious. Like a recycling of tails.
Sounds like you have a vested interest.
I’m just fighting the man, one man at a time.
Witchcraft cases have been difficult to prosecute in Zambia. Evidence is tricky to collect. The penalty for practicing witchcraft is a fine or up to two years in jail with the possibility of hard labor.
Seems high. Two years. Two years. Hard labor. What’s the fine? Doesn’t say.
Didn’t say in the article. I have loaded the first new story into the Curse-O-Meter. Sheryl will input the second.
So this article is titled self proclaimed time traveler warns of US civil war alien evacuation. These are his top five predictions for 2025. This is from business.in on February 28th of 2025.
Recent recent news.
A time traveler named Elvis Thompson has captivated the internet with bold predictions about 2025. In a video posted to Instagram on January 1st, he warmed up five catastrophic events set to unfold this year. So on the first one on April 6th, the tornado 24 kilometers wide with wind speeds facing 1046 kilometers per hour would devastate Oklahoma USA. Addiction number two. May 27th, a second American civil war will break out leading to Texas succeeding triggering a nuclear conflict that would leave the country in ruins.
I hope we’re down. Er, we’re upwind of that.
It’s starting to like pretty likely. I don’t know tornado rules.
Is that bigger, small?
24 kilometers wide. Seems big. That’s big.
Does one exist that has been 24 kilometers? No. How what’s the biggest tornado? Oh, that I don’t know.
Chris is looking it up.
All I can find are notes on how long the path of destruction was of a tornado. Interesting. But not like how wide it is.
The tornado is. Seems big.
It is very big. A tornado that size would be about half the city.
It’s not normal for tornadoes to be that wide. The civil war one seems right. Yeah. Yeah. But wait, there’s more. Number three. On September 1st, an alien named champion will arrive on Earth to transport 12,000 humans to a distant planet for their safety from hostile aliens that intend to harm Earth. An alien named champion.
He’s going to save us. He’s going to pick us up. Only 12,000 of us.
Well, I don’t think we’re going.
That’s a lot.
That’s more than we could do. Do you want to go? Like I don’t want to go.
Champion sounds like a horse name. So I’m going to think it’s a horse.
Yeah, it could be a horse. Alien. Yeah. Could be a horse. How do you feel about that? I’m not going with a horse alien. What if it was a cat alien? I reckon I’m very, I do like cats. I’m a devil you know type of girl. I don’t think I’m going. Fair. So you have to say to or I’ll be lonely. Sorry.
I’m going to put a cardboard cut out in the window.
It’s just you and Freddie and Sheryl.
Prediction number four on September 19th, a massive storm will batter the USA East Coast.
I mean, I feel like that happens. Yeah. Like every year. Yes. But this one’s going to be massive. Massive. Massive than the whole East Coast.
At the same time.
The fifth prediction is that on November 3rd, there will be discovery of a sea creature in the Pacific Ocean that will be six times the size of a blue whale. And it will be named Serene Crown. Terrible name.
Yep. But like I do know about the sizes of whales and a blue whale is the big one. How many kilometers? Just I measure whales and whale sizes. So like one blue whale is the size of one blue whale. Yeah. So that should tell you all you need to know. It’s quite big. Like six blue whales is getting silly. That’s like a million bananas. Yeah.
It’s a lot. Oh, we’re using American measurement.
Yes. Anything but the metrics.
Elvis Thompson’s videos have had over 20 million views with some viewers ridiculing the claims One user even joked he should have brought back lottery numbers instead from his trip to the future. That’s true.
You should always bring lottery numbers.
I mean if there’s going to be like a civil war and a nuclear war, how good is your lottery winnings then?
It’s good at the beginning when people still believe in money. There’s a space where it’s still worth it.
Another commenter sarcastically noted that they would take legal action if his predictions failed to come true. I guess he’s banking on the world ending. I guess so.
He’s going to short America.
But like they have all those zoom state preppers in America doing all that bunker stuff and then we had a real pandemic and they didn’t even go getting their little bunkers. No. They like to prep more than they like to be in it. Yeah.
I will enter in the third news story to finish calibrating the Curse-O-Meter titled Miss Purr. Queensland teacher allegedly behaving like a cat in class. Meow. This is from February 8th by Natalie Brown for news.com Australia. A Queensland high school teacher has reportedly been referring to themselves as a cat allegedly hissing at students and licking the back of their hands during class. The teacher has reportedly asked students to call her Miss Purr. Photos and videos show the teacher in front of a classroom wearing a cat ear headband and a lanyard with the word Purr on it. More alleged details were obtained from Facebook comments about the teacher’s behavior in class. She forces the children to call her Miss Purr and cats screeches and growls when they don’t listen.
That’s one way to get students to pay attention. It’s true.
I feel like this isn’t the first time we’ve heard about people acting like cats in schools though so I’m feeling skeptical. Yeah but this is the teacher. So a lot of cat school hysteria. What do you think that’s about?
You’re on the side of Miss Purr.
I mean just it’s not like she’s using a litter box. That we know of. The licking is too far. It’s not sanitary. Oh don’t worry it gets worse.
She sits in class and licks her hands. It’s absolutely disgusting. Something needs to be done about this. This was another comment. It’s fucking gross. And here’s your escalation Sydney. When mother alleged the teacher made her daughter Purr for a loli. That’s a bit creepy. How do you purr as a human? That’s not a cat purr. That’s how you purr as a human though.
I’m really well educated on cat purrs. Okay well then show us yours. I can’t do it because I’m a human.
Sounds like your education was not complete.
I’m just I know how cat purrs sound.
A department of education spoke person said Marsden State High School is aware of parents’ concerns and the principal has addressed the issue directly with the teacher. That’s it? Yep. That’s the end of the news story for now.
Okay. We might have an update in future episodes. You never know.
I wonder if that’s really going on or if that’s just like some urban myth stuff. There’s photos with the article. Of her licking hands.
Not with the licking of hands.
Licking hands is crazy.
I mean just give her time. Get her hands dirty. And then you’ll see you’re licking.
Her hands are dirty. She’s licking them.
What we fed in the three news stories into the Curse-O-Meter, we’ll get it to spit out the results now. Please stand by.
Well. That’s the Curse-O-Meter, Sydney. Very fancy. Curse-O-Meter results for the first story about the witchcraft trial in Zambia. Curse-O-Meter says probably cursed. Don’t collect animal tails people.
You shouldn’t do the animal tail collecting. No. But if they’re on the ground, I don’t know. Actually, I think I’m a little bit more open to that. If they’re already on the ground and the animals not using them.
It’s a very specific set of circumstances.
I’m just saying like waste not want not.
If it’s a horse tail. If you could do a witch, never have a horse or a horse tail. Just stay away from horses. If you’ve got a witchcraft you could do and you just need an animal tail and you’re walking down the street and you pick up an animal tail that’s not attached to an animal. That’s recycling. What I want to know is if you’re choosing a snake at what point do you decide is the tail and the rest of it’s the rest of the snake? Two thirds. Oh, you’ve done this before.
Worry about yourself. That was a quick answer.
Worry about yourself. Sydney’s been up to the witchcraft.
Yep. But like obviously it’s two thirds.
Which president were you targeting?
Don’t worry about it. Just worry about your own presidents and your own animal tails.
And the Curse-O-Meter results for the second news story about the Time Traveler’s warnings from 2025. Curse-O-Meter says definitely cursed.
This guy’s making some weird predictions and I don’t know if they’re real or not but I some of them sound like they would be legit.
20 million people are watching it. Believe in it. Yeah. Plus if it is real. Civil war. Nuclear war. Although I guess we get like a new addition to the marine biology textbooks.
Seems fast though.
Serene crown.
You’re telling me in April we’re gonna have a tornado and then immediately after in May we’re going to civil war and then nuclear action? Yep. I don’t think so. I just don’t think so. The Americans haven’t even adopted the metric system yet so.
Alright when do you think the civil war is gonna take place?
Like next year, like 2026. Spring maybe? I don’t know.
Also April, you’re just picking a different year aren’t you?
I think I’m just thinking of my birthday. I don’t know.
Civil war present for your birthday. Yep.
I’m gonna put his predictions into my phone and when we do episodes I will let you know if they’ve occurred or not.
Good call. Thank you. And the results for the third story about the high school teacher that identifies as a cat. Curse-O-Meter says probably cursed.
Yeah, don’t make your students act like a cat to get a lollipop. That sounds like grooming. Yep.
It’s bit fishy. Yep. And the hand licking is not cool.
And plus, you’re supposed to be a role model for people.
Not for cats.
No. No. If she was a cat teacher it’d be fine. Yeah. People would just think she’s being cute.
Are we sure we’re not missing context though? Like maybe her students are cats.
I mean. It seems so bizarre. These students’ parents were on Facebook.
I mean, so were the people all about the litter boxes though in the States. And that was not happening. Yeah, but there’s photos this time. I guess. I don’t know. I didn’t see the photos. Can I see them?
Only blurred out their face. That’s one of them. Okay. That’s another one. That’s with the purr lanyard.
That is quite the headband. Surely not though.
Surely not. There are some weirdos out there. Let me tell you. If it’s not real, I’m going to say it’s only a matter of time before it happens for real.
I hope not. Now is the instructor the same woman from that Reddit dating episode we did of our previous podcast where the guy’s girlfriend wanted to be a cat all the time?
Oh, maybe. Were they Australian? I don’t know. They didn’t say. That lady did want to be a cat. But she had quit her day job to become a cat.
Yeah, well if her boyfriend actually broke up with her and wasn’t supporting her anymore she’d need to get a day job. She just had to go
into the world and be her cat self.
Catting it up at her new job. Alright, well that finishes the calibration phase of the episode. Before we head over to the main topic we are going to take a quick side trip to the probably cursed museum and gift shop. So today’s side trip to the probably cursed museum will be a little bit different. We’ve already sold a few items from the shop which means it’s time to restock. Sheryl has been hard at work finding new additions to the museum and has found some great items from some online sellers and they’ve all just recently arrived. And Sydney as our special ghost host. We’re going to get you to unbox them.
Oh good. I missed you guys. I missed doing this. They’re all in the chair over there, Chris. Aren’t you excited Sydney? What did you find?
Maybe the first one?
The journalistic integrity that is not a box. It is an envelope.
Well, you said we’re journalists.
If anything is alive in here I will get mad.
No, I would not have something live shipped to the house. Define alive.
This is from eBay.
Sydney, is a demon alive?
Such a good question. Yes? I got dust on my sweater. Like a lot of dust you guys. Do you see that? Describe the dust. Like bunnies. Like dust bunnies. Oh see, yeah. What is this?
It’s a recycled fiber inside. Instead of doing the plastic wrap, a lot of… It does look like blanket.
It’s gold. Is it gold or bronze?
Can you supply more than one adjective?
Okay, it’s a one, two, three, four, five, six. Oh shit. One, two, three, four.
It’s a necklace. It does open. Just got to look at where the clasp is.
Oh, I don’t want it back. Thank you. You’re good. There’s hair in it. Can you describe the hair, Sydney? Hair, like human hair. It says it’s a memory locket. It’s so nice.
So Sheryl could shed more detail on what this item is.
Yeah, so it’s a piece of morning jewelry. The seller online says that it’s from the late 18 or early 1900s. It’s made of brass. How long does hair last? Forever from what I can tell.
There’s just hair from someone from the 1800s.
Yeah, so likely this was somebody’s child or relative who passed away. Okay. Yeah, and they cut off a piece of their hair and stuck it in a locket. Okay. To remember them by. Sydney looks very upset and or confused.
You may not have my hair if I die.
We already have all the hair we need.
Yeah, we’re good. Come in with me. On the outside, it’s very pretty. So that shit is haunted. 100%. I don’t know why you keep bringing these things into your home. Because we want to have a haunted museum at some point. Does your house insurance cover this? Probably. The hauntings? Probably. What would they have to cover? Like ghost excavators.
Ghost excavators? Yeah, that’s where you get someone to excavate the ghosts. Like they have bulldozers? Yeah. Like a construction crew of ghosts?
I think a bulldozer is not excavation. The diggers are the excavators. I know construction. So. And apparently ghosts. Follow me for more tips. That is a very nice memory locket with real human hair inside of it.
But wait, there’s more. Cool. I will hand you a second package here.
None of these are boxes. The last one’s a box, I promise. These ones I can rip. Okay. There’s a black and gold envelope. And it says Sheryl on the front in white ink. And then there is a card. And it’s black and gold lettering. And it says thank you.
Thank you for your order. Sheryl, thank you for adopting Julia. She is very excited to meet you and has helped choose spiritual cards just for you. To welcome Julia into your home, find a quiet space for her, and light a candle to ignite your connection. Happy communicating.
I do not think this is going to be covered by house insurance if it goes south. Oh, ye of little faith. And then there is a little gift bag that says thank you.
I think that might be the cards picked by Julia.
As long as it’s not more human hair.
I don’t know why I come over. Sure, I guess you must know. There is spiritual cards from Julia. And oh, another thank you. Two thank yous. Incense and a feather and some stone chips. Cone incense for the incense enthusiasts at home. You really lucked out with this package.
Yeah. And two tea lights. Excellent for us to welcome Julia into the house. Ghost will use to set your home on fire. And it will not be covered by insurance. I don’t know what spiritual cards are. Well, open them and find out. But this looks like an envelope she made herself, and I have also learned how to make envelopes.
So, sound a little insecure about your envelope.
So many thank yous from this late. Where did you get this from? Thank you for supporting my business. Your order made my day. I hope this package makes yours. When signs appear, blessings are near from Julia. I don’t know where you got this from, but you should give them a shout out.
I’m pretty sure I got it from Etsy.
They gave you so many thank yous, and they handmade this envelope for you.
This doll came all the way from the UK.
Okay, spirit cards. Put up for you to look at somewhere, because there’s a lot of stuff, and I don’t really feel like describing it. They’re cards who get it. Let’s move along. Whoa. Moving along don’t know how to put that
back in you better not be rude to Julia.
She might follow you home Don’t We’ll give her a ride
Sydney’s having a severe ADHD attack
so the doll is like You got to take a picture of this. This is fucking horrifying It’s got it’s little hands and head and feet are all bubble wrapped and it’s so scary
Sheryl’s taking a photo for our social medias.
I don’t like that We got to protect her hands and face. They’re delicate.
Don’t like how our hands feel.
Did it grab your hand back as you grabbed it?
It’s like that. I don’t it’s like chalkboards horrible slate Julia It’s a little porcelain doll. Mm-hmm. I don’t like it.
It’s wearing a crinkly pink dress And a bonnet it’s got blonde hair since Sydney was the first one to make physical contact It’s fully bonded to her now.
Excuse me. You can just take your bonding right back. Is that true dolls? Aren’t real dolls are real.
There’s one right there. I Think it’s a good one. Sheryl.
I think she’s gonna cute. I think it’s a good find I don’t like how it feels.
She’s gonna watch you in the middle of the night. That’s kind of vibe. She’s giving off.
That’s fine Yeah, we’ll be at your house. No, all right And one more box third and final for Sydney. Is this the one that had the description on it?
Julia was the one who had description.
Yeah the mailing packaging for Julia said haunted object for The description of context. Yeah, it says haunted doll
Okay, there’s lots of stuff though the first thing is the envelope
Wow, they did send a lot of stuff. Yeah.
Yeah, Sheryl knows how to shop
I mean Etsy is the place to buy stuff because the sellers usually throw in a bunch of free things.
Oh Okay This looks like some shit straight out of Pompeii What is this?
It’s can you describe what you’re looking at Pompeii?
It looks like Pompeii. It’s a child but like with no face Is it is it bonded to me now because I touched it. I don’t know why I hang out with you I’m gonna get a different brother. I’m gonna go. There’s a program for it. I don’t need you.
What is the child on?
Horse rocker, but it’s like bumpy Like it couldn’t be 3d printed. Oh Isn’t it rock scary? And look at that hair. Look how scary it rocks It’s not normal. Why did I agree to come over? Take you have that. No, that’s for you. I don’t want to do that
Don’t worry only 75 more packages to go Look safe.
This is a little box with flowers on it. Open it It’s just Kleenex. Yep. I’m scared to take the Kleenex out There’s nothing behind the Kleenex.
I don’t trust you We just needed you to look in the mirror.
Fuck I did it too. Why? I knew I shouldn’t have why what’s wrong with it. Nothing. I just made that up. I did look in the mirror A little envelope these the little businesses making little envelopes
This is a woman who does glass work out of Vancouver who sent us this support Canadian.
Yep But not if it’s haunted especially if it’s haunted. Thank you Exclamation mark. Hope you enjoy your rocking horse. Sorry. Okay. It’s a rocking horse. We already opened that Rocking horse and some fun bonus gifts Thank you little person that made this a tiny blue envelope with a tiny teacup on it. Mm-hmm. All right So more stuff. There’s more. There’s even more.
Yeah, there’s so much stuff that we’re gonna be here a minute This is gonna be our longest episode ever. Seacoal Nope go 100% gull. It’s not a coal My bad, but it’s a little bridge seagull pewter 10% of seagull pewters profits support environmental and educational Oh made a pug wash. Mm-hmm.
I like pug wash. I got a Christmas ornament. Don’t try to move on Chris. There’s more stuff Okay, this is a tiny cup and a candle holder So if you’re very tiny and you need a tiny candle holder and a tiny cup, we got you This is a pretty cool and last one It’s a tiny little train And it’s white with little gold accents And I think you need to get some clippies to clip it together.
That’s pretty cute. Yeah Etsy sellers go all out
Well, that concludes the unwrapping of our new haunted items for this shop I guess we will announce sometime maybe just on our social media So keep an eye there for when we add these items to the probably curse museum and gift shop at probablycursed.etsy.com If you are looking to get rid of your own curse artifacts, you can email Sheryl or I at probablycursedpodcast@gmail.com and we will help you get your curse item off of your hands and into
ours Out of all these things the doll is the most cursed and then the rocking horse. What about the hair? I mean, you’re just trying to remember your loved ones. It’s a little cursed, but that um That rocking horse is some melt That rocks unnaturally That’s fine.
Thank you for helping us unbox the Sydney. You’ll get my bill and now we will head on over to the main topic
So because we did Purchase a bunch of haunted objects I wanted to talk about our favorite activity, which I’m sure is an activity that Sydney thinks we’re crazy for Buying haunted objects. Yes.
You are crazy You are six blue whales crazy.
Have you looked at our display cabinet downstairs? Yeah, I’ve glanced down it. It’s overflowing It’s not healthy.
It’s too much curse Is is the uh the rocking horse the most cursed thing that you think we have in the collection or is there something else you think is more cursed
I forget what all your other stuff is. I have a lot of dolls that I don’t like and that’s stupid pentagram board
The thing is we built that pentagram board.
Yeah. Mm. That’s our display for taking pictures of our cursed items We needed a photo studio. Yep. Got it. So the purchase and sale haunted or cursed items Has been prevalent since ancient times and has become increasingly popular in modern times as well humans seem to have an obsession with collecting objects with some sort of spiritual or Magical force attached to them. So please join us on our quest to discover the history of selling haunted objects So what I’m about to talk about may upset some of our religious listeners. I hope there aren’t that many
We’re not a religious podcast But technically you could argue that relics from the saints Would be considered haunted. Yeah. Yeah makes sense. I mean, they’re supposed to have their power attached to them That’s kind of like a haunted thing
Yeah, and they’re often Like the physical remains of a person or an object that belong to that saint That’s supposed to have like mystical powers of some sort.
Yeah Flashback to our Christmas episode where the bones of st. Nicholas oozes a liquid on the anniversary of his death That’s right. Ew. And it’s supposedly a very useful liquid. Of course. Here’s what it tells you I don’t think that’s true. You just got to lick it up.
Nope. That seems unsanitary It’s more looking than I signed up for in this
podcast So the desire to collect sacred relics became such a popular thing that people began selling and purchasing fake relics Popular fake relics include Virgin Mary’s breast milk Jesus’s foreskin No And the body of saint valentine which apparently there are like six bodies of his that have been floated ground You can’t buy bodies Yes, you can you’re not supposed to well you just take them.
You shouldn’t there’s lying there.
That’s not good to do But my favorite story Is the body of Saint Rozelia who people Had been praying to ever since her bones were paraded through the streets supposedly curing a town of the plague in 1624 That’s quite handy. Yeah herons out though a British geologist named William Buckland who was on his honeymoon in Italy realized the bones on display were not human Oh no And in fact they were later identified as the skeleton of a goat
So so goats can cure the plague. I guess so that’s can the church saint a goat?
um I think it’s the bones of goats.
So i’ll get into it a little bit later, but uh, they actually This town where she her bones are on display. They refuse to believe that they are the bones of a goat They are convinced that this is the bones of Saint Rozelia.
Oh and that Saint Rozelia turned into a goat upon death Uh, no.
Oh, yeah, can’t you could see it though because like goat shapes Are different than human shapes in terms of bones sometimes.
Yeah. Yeah moving on Yeah, so as I said before the bones are still on display and people still believe it is her skeleton Even though it’s been proven that they are not but where are her bones?
That’s the power of prayer. That’s right Buckland’s wife was probably trying to get him to stop debunking relics on their honeymoon, but he just couldn’t stop So being a scientist couldn’t switch off Uh, yeah, his brain just keep going because on the same trip while visiting another church He realized some dark spots on the floor of the church, which everyone was calling the drops of martyr’s blood Was actually bat urine
Sydney you’ve worked with bats It’s clear though.
It doesn’t look like blood. No.
No, even if you feed them beets We didn’t beats are horrible.
So you don’t know beats are trash It’s a trash root vegetable.
So now fast forward a little bit And we’re going to talk a little bit about the 1800s So we don’t have a lot of information about objects haunted objects sold in the 1800s But we do know that not only did people buy leeches and poison And animal blood on a fairly regular basis They also love to purchase themselves some haunted objects Victorian people were obsessed with the paranormal Collectors wanted curios mementos from crime scenes human remains so they could display them in their houses
I think uh this medallion that we have now is our first human remains.
Yes, it is Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah You’re very encouraging. We’re gonna do it even more now
And every time we’ll invite you over gross And with this new thirst for curios and haunted objects more specialty shops and magic shops opened Which led to an increased in fortune tellers mediums and occult practitioners Psychic fairs also became popular with many people having spirit boards or Ouija boards in their homes – Them Ouija boards – Mm-hmm. Don’t do it We have one of those too.
Don’t do it. Now Sydney you made a comment about who would want buy human remain I did well the sale of mummies was very popular at the time in the 1800s You
could buy a mummy you shouldn’t though.
That’s people but if you wanted to be cool in the
1800s I see
there was even a single boat that is rumored to have arrived from Egypt in Liverpool on February 10th 1890 that contained over 180,000 mummies the British are not okay Okay Careful those are my ancestors little sticky finger British people mummy unwrapping parties became super
popular Do you think they put them on a spindle and then unwrap them like a roll of toilet paper?
No, how do they wrap them? I’ll google it later bandages But like Did they spin them or like how did they you’re talking about how did they unwrap them?
How do they wrap oh how they wrap them
same way as they roll up paper towel?
Yeah, I’ll google it later You watch the pretty you think that is just like bounty style just the quicker picker upper boat with people Yep, that’s not what happened the quicker people wrapper Sorry, Sheryl.
We keep cutting you off.
No worries. That’s part of the fun of this podcast so Wealthy victorians would host their family and friends at lavished events where the main event was unwrapping a mummy And some of these parties even involved autopsies Or the consumption of mummy remains because people believed that the remains Had medicinal powers No, no, you would need a mummy. No, you wouldn’t drink the mummy tea
No, that seems like how you get a curse not how you get rid of a curse Wouldn’t eat the mummy stew. How is that not cannibalism? I know I’ll google it.
Yeah, it’s fine We don’t throw parties like they used to no, I don’t think we’ve ever had an autopsy at any of our house parties
I think that’s for the best That’s not sanitary My germ fear is growing and growing so I wouldn’t come
over Sometimes the mummies were ground into powders so they could be used for ingredients in the creation of gunpowder They were also so too artists as a paint with the name mummy brown or Egyptian brown
This is like very racist Why is it racist? It’s just you can’t just take up
you can’t be racist to dead people
Can you if the pigment looks like it’s brown other than calling it Egyptian brown, which is a little I mean, that’s where it counts.
I know but like mummy brown is pretty dicey. I don’t think you should Do that. I don’t think that you should turn mummies into paint
also No, that’s probably not a good call
judgey
Sometimes i’m judgey the first public mummy unwrapping event was in 1821 Where thousands showed up to Piccadilly circus to watch archaeologist Giovanni Belzone Unwrap his prize. Wow. We were in Piccadilly circus We were I can just imagine what that would have been like to like see this crowd of people just show up to I
think unless you’re in the first five rows, you’re not seeing anything Oh, no, I don’t know.
You’re pretty tall, especially back then 1800s. You’d have been a giant
Yeah, but Sheryl wouldn’t have been able to
see no probably would have burned you with a stake for being a witch So
I mean they would have burned me at a stake for being a witch long before I reached the age of 38 unmarried knowing science. That’s it.
I’d be done Just the fact that I let Sheryl have her own money. That’s right. We’ve gotten her burned at the stake.
Yeah Also during the 1800s The curse of the hope diamond was beginning to turn into a legend Although not officially haunted It is apparently cursed the hope diamond got its name after appearing in a gem catalog from the hope banking family in 1839 I’m not going to go into the whole history of the hope diamond because It could make it for an interesting future episode but the diamond Had been missing for over 20 years when it finally resurfaced in the catalog up for sale It passed through several hands between when it was found in 1666
666 Cursed that is a cursed number But I mean there’s a one in there so it might be okay. It’s not a full triple six. That’s right. Yeah Keep telling yourself that it’s like a watered down triple six and if you add them together you got a seven in there and it’s just nuts Numbers man.
Yeah, so it passed through several hands between when it was found till until the Smithsonian inherited it in 1902
Yep, I saw it at the Smithsonian when I went to Washington dc Okay, breaker It’s in its own little case and it just faces one direction and then after like 10 seconds it rotates 90 degrees and then just sits there again So when there’s a huge crowd of people crowded around it, it just sort of keeps Turning around to face people that mark very jealous.
I would like to see in person. We’ll go To date we know of 10 victims of the hope diamond curse now with the talk of the 1900s because the Smithsonian inherited the hope diamond in 1902 We can move a bit closer to present day and talk about haunted items in the 1900s So psychic fairs were as popular as ever and horror movies became to Or began to increase in popularity the market for haunted objects increased and the idea of haunted dolls suddenly became Exponentially more popular excited Sydney.
No, this is popular.
No, I’m not excited We could send you home with a new haunted doll to go with your other one.
That’s fine. I’m trying to reduce my clutter
As more people went searching for haunted items It also led to an increase In haunted object horror movies fans of these types of movies started flocking to thrift stores and antique stores Hoping to find their very own haunted objects And then boom the internet was born and the 2000s led to the creation of sites like eBay and Etsy
Very decent suppliers for the probably cursed
museum And those sites also began selling haunted objects and they give you a lot of freebies Yep Etsy is fantastic for that if you go on reddit You’ll also find a lot of stories of people who have purchased haunted items And you can also find youtube videos where people unbox Haunted items
Or listen to this podcast where we had Sydney unbox them and get free asmr – G-asmr. Yeah ghost audio something something Yep mr
Exactly you can find stores like ours with haunted objects and curios for sale as the market for Haunted items increases you’re gonna see more and more of these types of stores like ours It’s a booming market
Sydney and you’re on the the ground floor. We’re in the ground floor.
It’s exciting for you If we uh get you to sign up and sell things
Oh, i’m done my sales career sign up 10 other people to help sell Uh-huh. I don’t think that’s for me Thanks, though
Yeah, you don’t know 10 people never mind.
I don’t even know 10 people and that’s why you can’t be in a pyramid scheme That’s right.
They’re also now Uh popular tv shows that are dedicated to removing spirits from haunted objects Or moving haunted objects from people’s homes. Boo. Yeah, so the haunted collector and repossessed play onwards Are two of the more popular ones Uh of the most famous haunted objects that have been purchased off ebay We have the Dybbuk box.
I was listening to a podcast the other day where They had the director Who worked on the possession and the people who were the current owners of the Dybbuk box, which I guess that was the actual Dybbuk box that was in the movie. Yes, that was the the real thing. Yes.
It wasn’t a prop I don’t know what a divot box is.
It’s based in Jewish Uh mysticism, I believe you lock a demon in a box of the wax seal So that box got a demon in it
We also have Peggy the doll, Harold the doll, a painting titled the hands resist him And the cursed ring of Rudolf Valentino.
I don’t know who Rudolf Valentino is I had to look it up.
Um, and I’m gonna have to quickly double check again because I was like, oh and then dismissed it from my head but Wow, this is a long article. Look at almost me do a whole episode itself. Anyway, Rudolf Valentino was a Italian actor Okay. Yeah So celebrity. Yeah And the ring was purchased on a trip to San Francisco And the shopkeeper even told him it was cursed so He like us was like well then I need it
You know, we’ve never been told certain things were cursed. Maybe these days you have to ask
We should go to San Francisco. Chris and I have been separately, but we’ve been I went separately too.
Well done.
We all went separate So it’s a lot of cursed stuff. Yeah. Do you believe in ghosts?
In curses? I have a complicated relationship with believing in ghosts. Okay Mainly no they believe in you. Yeah, it’s because I’m worth believing in that’s our story Thank you very much for that.
Sheryl. So we will enter in cursed what we call this cursed collections haunted collections We’ll enter in haunted collections into the Curse-O-Meter to determine How cursed it is activating Curse-O-Meter now Please stand by And the Curse-O-Meter says Curse-O-Meter says definitely cursed which I understand it is sort of the whole entire point You don’t just want a cabinet full of junk. You want a cabinet full of supernatural potential
No, I just want a cabinet full of bowls and plates. That’s called a cupboard What the You could put your plates in a cabinet haunted bowls and plates. No just regular Oh, well, it’s boring. Just regular ones. I was thinking of a cupboard
Well, that wraps up today’s episode Thank you very much for the topic Sheryl. Of course Thank you very much to our special ghost host Sydney. How did you like being back in the podcasting saddle today? You’ll get my bill It was fine.
Was that good? Yeah, I liked opening this stuff until I opened it and saw what it was because it was all pretty creepy but Leading up to that was fun.
Do you think you’ll ever come back on our podcast?
How much hair is there going to be next time?
Um as much as you want.
I need More guarantees of more hair.
Okay less hair Preferably no hair. How about bones?
I’m going to get one of those riders like celebrities have How about fingernails?
No, oh gross dirty Well see if Sydney will ever ever come back on our show Until then we will release our next episode on the first of the month and This is like our May episode, right?
It’s supposed to be June. Okay. This is June episode So we should bring up that our probably cursed museum will be on sale this month Friday the 13th our museum will be 13% off And
like we stated or last episode There will not be another Friday the 13th until 2027. So you got to get in on shopping now And you can view all of our cursed artifacts on probably cursed at etsy.com until then you can also Keep track of us on our socials on instagram facebook tiktok tumblr blue sky All that probably cursed
If you have any haunted objects or cursed things that you would like to get rid of of your own house and send to us You can send us an email at probably cursed podcast at gmail.com until next month.
Stay spooky.
Stay spooky everyone Thanks so much for listening everyone and join us next time when chris tells us about haunted whale songs That’s free for you.
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