Today we input into our Lord-Canarvan Curse-O-Meter the tale of the mysterious town of Doveland, a ghost’s attempts at Grand Theft Auto, a mysterious condition that turns everyone around you into demons, and the government cover-up of a pregnant alien mummy.

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Ghost Stealing Car

Man Sees Demons

Pregnant Alien Mummy

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Today we input into our Lord-Kanarvan Curse-O-Meter the tale of the mysterious town of Doveland, a ghost’s attempts at Grand Theft Auto, a mysterious condition that turns everyone around you into demons, and the government cover-up of a pregnant alien mummy. This is your host, Chris.

This is Sheryl. And if you’re listening to this, you, like us, have also managed to avoid being raptured up during the April eclipse. So good job, all of you.

We know that we’re in good company from here on out. As we do at the start of every episode, we are going to calibrate our Curse-O-Meter. I’ll just activate it here. We’ll feed it in recent stories from the news, and use it to calibrate our Curse-O-Meter for the main topic.

I will feed into it the first news story here. Seeing demons. Rare condition causes man to see a monster in every face.

This was an article I found by Michelle Butterfield for Global News from March 25th, 2024. Victor Chirah never had a problem with his vision, but all that changed when he suddenly went from seeing normal faces to the faces of demons. He’s been reading the Bible a little too much if he’s seeing demons. Probably.

I think if you read the Bible too much, you start seeing demons everywhere. In November of 2020, so right early on in the pandemic, it’s a good time to have weird things happen to your brain. In November of 2020, Chirah says that all of a sudden, any human face he looked at appeared grotesquely distorted. I just woke up and was sitting on the couch watching TV when my roommate came into the room, and looking at him, I’m like, what am I seeing? And then his girlfriend walked in and her face was the same.

I tried to explain to my roommate what I was seeing and he thought I was nuts. Then I went outside and all the faces of people I saw were distorted and still are. Chirah said human faces now appear stretched out and widened with pointy ears and deep grooves carved into their skin. I’ll just show Chirah a picture. He worked with a lab to recreate what he sees out of a normal face. Gosh, it looks like some sort of Dragon Ball Z enemy. Yeah, a little bit.

That’s how he sees women as well. Nice. Side view. That’s the pointy ears. It kind of reminds me if you took Beast from the X-Men comics and shaved him.

Fair. He’s got kind of like that big broad face with pointy ears. That’s what everyone looks like to him now.

Well, that’s unfortunate, poor guy. But it turns out there’s a scientific explanation behind what he’s seeing called, this word is like 20 letters long, prosopometamorph… Alright, try one more time. Prosopometamorphopsia. Well done. Or PMO.

I should have just left it at PMO. A disorder that makes some people think they’re seeing demon-like faces everywhere. According to a study published in the Lancet, the patient stated that the distortions, severely stretched features of the face with deep grooves on the forehead, cheeks, and chin, were present on every person’s face he encountered. But he reported no distortions when looking at objects such as houses or cars. The patient said that even though faces were distorted, he was still able to recognize who they were. The study continued.

Also, the study found that Shiraz’s distortions only appeared when looked at people in person, not when he looked at humans in a photograph or on a television or computer screen. Interesting. That’s like really bizarre. I mean, this sounds like sometimes what I, I mean, jokingly deal with the social anxiety where everyone just all of a sudden looks menacing.

They just turn into goblins. PMO is exceedingly rare, with only 100 published case reports. Researchers think it might be brought on by dysfunction in the area of the brain that handles facial processing, but they aren’t sure what exactly causes the condition. Shiraz hopes his diagnosis can help other people with the disorder. I almost had myself committed to a mental hospital, he told the outlet.

How many other people are institutionalized in being put on anti-psychotics when they’re not psychotic? Could you imagine like suddenly everyone around you looks like a goblin? Yeah, I don’t think I would know what to do. Like who would, who would you go tell the first person like, I guess he told his roommate first, but like, Yeah.

from there, where do you go and not worry that they’re gonna like commit you to her? I know if it was me, I would probably just think maybe this will go away on its own and then by like day two, I’ll be like, alright, I’m getting worried, I’m gonna go see a doctor. If you can only see people normally through like, like a TV, I wonder if you could make like video goggles that have like cameras and then front of his eyes are just screens of what he’s basically seeing. That’s true. And then he could just sort of return back to almost a normal life.

I also wonder how much it would matter if like zoom calls, like he could do zoom calls or teams calls or some sort of like face time and it should be okay, I think. Yeah. It’s still weird that he recognizes the people when they’re all distorted. Yeah. So there’s that part of his brain and it like recognizes the features. Well, we fed in the first story in the Curse-O-Meter, Sheryl feed in the second.

All right. I have the bizarre case of Peruvian alien mummies takes another turn as officials raid pregnant specimen press conference. So this article comes to us from Amelia Neath who works for the independent UK on the stories from April 2024. A conference run by Mexican journalist and ufologist Jamie Moussin showcasing a supposedly pregnant alien mummy that was suddenly halted when officials from the Peruvian ministry of culture burst in and tried to seize the specimen.

The specimen named Montserrat was in the process of gestation with a body of fetal and tridactyl characteristics within it. It’s a very weird way of putting that. Yeah. I think it might have been translated because he is Mexican.

Yeah, fair enough. The species named Montserrat was in the process of gestation with a body of fetal and tridactyl characteristics within it. Mr. Moussin wrote on Twitter, according to a translation, Mr. Moussin is the same ufologist who hit the headlines last September with his two non human corpses that he claimed were over a thousand years old and recovered from Peru. I wonder where he’s getting all these aliens from.

Where they all collected in the thing they are homemade. But is his story that there’s just one cave where all these aliens are huddling together in big mummified piles? So in the image that you showed me of this mummy, I actually wonder if it might be a real mummy. You think so? I mean it looks very humanistic. Yeah, it has sort of an elongated head. Yeah, I do wonder if it might be a real mummy. He may or may not have put exaggerated features on using clay or other. Now I can kind of see that. I mean the head elongated is like less shriveled and detailed than like the limbs and the feet. Maybe he just had a regular mummy and just snapped off the fingers to give it three fingers.

That’s what I’m wondering. Officials were captured on camera apologizing to attendees. Sorry for the interruption. We are taking an unexpected preventative action with the Ministry of Culture and the Specialized Cultural Heritage Police. Regarding the exhibition of the Tridactyl mummies that you have reported on social networks, said the official according to Need to Know. I want to see the Law and Order series about the Specialized Cultural Heritage Police. 100%.

Bustin’ mummy peddlers everywhere. Yeah, that would be a fun show to watch. I suspect it’s only in Peru that these police exist, but I could be wrong.

We should see if Canada’s got a squad. Officials realized that the mummy’s body was not brought to the event. Instead the conference consisted of a 15 minute video and a series of guest speakers who invited the officials to take a seat and watch the short seminar video. So it was just a presentation. I mean, if it is an actual mummy, even if it’s a prop that he made in his garage, it’s possible that it would be very hard to transport. That’s true.

It’s probably like real brittle. Yeah. And who knows, like alien physiology might just be sleeping, hibernating.

Yeah, plus you don’t want somebody to accidentally steal your pregnant alien body for themselves. All right, that is the second story. I will feed in a third story here to finish calibration. So the story is, horrified couple capture moment, ghost tries to steal sports car two nights in a row. The story is from Zesha Salim from themir.co .uk from March 23rd. A couple claim that a flash ghost likes their Audi TT, or double T. I don’t know how to car guy. And even tried to steal the keys. They claim CCTV footage captured the supposed ghoul trying to steal their sports car two nights in a row. March 10th, Laura and Darren Smith were looking for their car keys and decided to check their CCTV footage in case they were dropped outside. To their surprise, they saw a white figure lingering around the sports car for 10 seconds before floating away. The 45 year old thought it was her dead mom visiting her on Mother’s Day. Why would her dead mom go visit the sports car instead of coming in the house? No, it also doesn’t make sense. I don’t know if Mother’s Day is on March 10th. Um, yeah, good question.

Unless the UK has. Different Mother’s Day. However, when the mysterious figure returned the following night, she feared it was a spirit who was taking a liking to their flashy Audi TT. This is just them bragging to all their friends. They’re like, look at our fancy flashy sports car, oh and a ghost. Anyway, the ghost is looking at our Audi TT.

That’s right. Brand new. Parked right outside if you want to look. A second clip shows the white patch float down to the driver’s side door again before moving towards the rear as if it got inside. Darren’s car keys were found in Laura’s handbag, yet neither recall putting them in there. And she claims to have checked there twice before leaving them to believe it was the ghost returning them. Hey, hey ghost, ghost, I lost my keys this weekend. Can you find them and put them in Chris’s backpack? That would be appreciated. Yeah, if any ghosts listen to this podcast and I bet they do.

I’d like my keys. Laura, who has been left scared by the clips, claims Darren even feared driving the car that Sunday in case the spirit was sitting waiting for him in the rear seats. What are they worried the ghost is going to do?

Probably like backseat drive. Okay, fair. That is annoying. What if it was like the ghost of a car nerd and he was like, oh, you need to like take care of like that little bit of dust on the windshield. Let’s pull over and wipe it off right now. Or maybe they stole the car and it’s the ghost of the victim, the person whose car it originally was coming back to murder them for taking their, it’s beautiful Audi TT. Also likely possible. This can’t just be some random ghost taking a liking to their car. This goes deeper. They knew that ghost.

It’s true. All right, so those three stories are fed into the Curse-O-Meter. I will get it to spit out the results now. Please stand by. I’ll leave those in.

We have our results here. So the first new story of the man who is seeing everyone around him turn into demons probably cursed. That guy is never going to be able to look at another human being the same way ever again. It’s not a good situation to be in.

No. Actually, it kind of reminds me of that Black Mirror Christmas special where the guy’s punishment was that he couldn’t look or talk to anyone after. Like, because he had those implants in his head. So everyone was just a blurry talking blob and he wasn’t able to communicate. Yeah. I guess you can, this guy can still talk to people, but they’re all crazy looking. They’re all creatures now. Yeah. Does that mean if he sees someone who looks like that in real life, they’re going to look normal?

Oh yeah. That’s a really good question. I wonder, I don’t know if I’ve ever seen anyone look like that, but there is that body mod community out there.

Somebody wants to test it out for science. Get your ears tapered and deep grooves cut into your skin. And your face all stretched out.

Just duct tape your scalp back as far as it’ll go before ripping. And then get back to us. We would really like to know.

Who won’t pay you anything for it by the way. We’re just curious. It’s true. You will get kudos.

Many kudos. Yes. For the second story of the Peruvian pregnant mummy, is the mummy cursed? The results are the curses people. You know, it surprised me that this guy did it again. He did it the first time with those other alien mummies. And now he’s doing it again with this new alien mummy. You must be like actually getting somewhere with these antics.

Yeah. Maybe he’s like selling books or DVDs. Maybe he’s on the UFOlogy talking circuit and he goes to the conferences and tells people about his alien mummies and gets money for it. Who knows? Now the cultural preservation police are trying to steal his samples. So it’s like the government’s covering it up.

For the final story of the ghost that’s trying to steal that couple’s car, the results say probably cursed. It’s not helpful to have your… He’s probably getting ectoplasmal over their car and they’re having to clean their brand new Audi TT. Not just that, but like if they’re afraid to drive it, then what’s the point of having the car anymore? That’s true. It just sits there attracting ghosts in your driveway.

Yeah, that’s not good. Creating cold spots on your block? In theory, if you get enough money from selling YouTube videos of ghosts trying to ride in your car, maybe you can buy a better sports car. Although if it is a car fanatic ghost, it will probably hang out even more around their brand new Lambo or Aston Martin or whatever they choose to get.

Then maybe they’ll bring their friends and then you’ll get better proof of ghosts. Alright, that completes the calibration of the curse omenor. Before we move on to our main topic, we’re going to head on over to the probably cursed museum and gift shop for our new artifact that we are dropping today with this very episode. Today’s probably cursed artifacts are the baby dolls. Fun fact, our nieces saw these baby dolls and they’re convinced that they must be haunted. Or at least our one niece is pretty much convinced it must be haunted and required photographic evidence. That’s true.

This has worked on children and it will probably work on the people in your life. So of all the items in our collection, I’d say these dolls look the most haunting. It’s a pair of dolls and they aren’t the same size, one doll is big and the other is little. And the large doll comes dressed in a gown. The head and arms of the doll I think are made of wood and the body is stuffed with what I’m pretty sure is hay.

If you give it a squish, it makes that crackling grass noise. The eyes on the large doll are also of the variety that open and close when you lie it back or set it up. Hopefully if you buy it and take it home, the eyes will open and close all on their own just for you. The eyes also have large vertical cracks around them on the head of the doll and it gives them almost like a slit pupil appearance.

Yeah, it’s very unsettling. The smaller doll that accompanies the big one is I think it’s made of wood or some sort of plastic material. It came fully nude so this one’s got no clothes.

You can make your own creepy doll clothes for this guy. Its body is damaged and discolored. It’s got a couple of gouges out of it. And it looks like it’s been haunting a ditch for the last 50 years.

But it has the most piercing blue eyes. Sheryl and I picked them up from an estate sale and originally we were only interested in getting the large one but the estate agent once we had purchased the doll we wanted handed us the second doll off the shelf behind her I think it was. And just gave it to us for no extra charge. She’s like just take it.

And now they belong together and both can be yours. If you head over to our Probably Cursed store at probablycursed.etsy .com Help us reach our goal of our haunted museum and support our podcast. Bring this to the end of the museum portion of our show and now we’ll get on to the main topic. So today I’m going to talk to you about Dublin, Wisconsin in the good old US of A. The town allegedly disappeared sometime in the late 1980s or early 1990s. It’s a missing town.

Yeah, it’s a missing town. No one seems to know where the town went nor is anyone able to find any record of Dublin itself. There are some people who claim to have like t-shirts and mugs with the Dublin’s name on it and there are even some people that claim they know someone who lived in the town like a relative or a friend but there’s no one who can specifically say they actually lived in that town just people who gently knew people. They’re like, I know about Dublin.

Yeah, so it kind of makes it even more strange. One of the most popular pieces of evidence online for the existence of Dublin is that where Dublin was apparently located, it was known as the Green Bay Area and there’s an article online showing that thousands of people went missing from the Green Bay Area of Wisconsin in the late 80s to early 90s. Right around the same time. Yeah, but it doesn’t mention Dublin in the article. So it’s just these people went missing.

Weird. It’s like the town disappeared first and then all the people. Yeah, like it’s very bizarre and I think the most bizarre piece of evidence of the existence of Dublin is a photograph. You can look up this photograph online. It’s not really anything too crazy, although there are people who claim that the faces are distorted and all that sort of stuff, but…

They have that PMO disorder. Yeah, but the photograph is of three people at a restaurant and the story is that the photograph was found in Dublin and it was like recovered, but there’s no one’s got any way of proving that it was from Dublin. So it could just be someone’s random photograph of three people at a restaurant. It almost looks like a fondue type place. Was there any clues inside the photograph where you could tell where they might be at? Other than the fondue set type thing, almost like the Korean grill in the table type setup, there wasn’t really anything that gave away where these people could be. And the people in the photos, they do look like they’re dressed for the late 80s and 90s.

Like the hairstyles, the clothes, everything else. It does look like it’s from that time period. And when you Google Dublin, Wisconsin, that photo shows up on like the Wikipedia page and a bunch of other places. So it’s been associated with it long enough that… Everyone pretty much agrees that’s where it’s from. Yeah, so the earliest known and documented mention of Dublin occurred in 2017 and it was posted on Tumblr. Apparently the post has now been deleted, but people have reposted it over the however many years. Not sure where they’re getting it from. Yeah, I think the post can live on when you repost things on Tumblr.

Yeah. Because it always shows the attribution from the person you’re reposting from. I think it just shows up as blank or grayed out.

Okay, well anyway, the post went as follows. Has anyone here heard about Dublin, Wisconsin? Okay, so this is like a golf rumors, but there’s basically no information online and even less than golf rumors in fact. Golf rumors? Golf rumors. Like rumors on the golf course? I guess so. It doesn’t really say. Your dad’s a golfer.

He’s the golfer, I’ll have to ask him. It goes on to say, there was a small town in Wisconsin called Doveland that just up and disappeared sometime in the late 1980s slash early 1990s. One day the town was there and the next it wasn’t.

Every man, woman, and child vanished into thin air. I guess the town as well, because there would be photos of an empty town. Yeah, a lot of the people online were saying as evidence that the Doveland isn’t real, although take for what you will. There should be buildings somewhere. For everything to disappear, it’s just bizarre because there should be some evidence that it is somewhere.

Yeah, city limit signs. Yeah, because of the limited information on Doveland, I also wanted to bring up some other towns that have been known to disappear or vanish. Another reason that I bring these up is because some of these, most of these, are mentioned in the articles when you look up Doveland, so they’re other known cases of missing towns, although most of these seem to be villages. So the first one is Lake Anjikuni. It was a village that disappeared in the 1930s and none of it Canada.

It was along the banks of the Kansan River in Kavillik region. And the story goes that Canadian fur trapper named Joe LaBelle was traveling in the area and he was aware of the Inuit settlement. But when he arrived at the village, he found that the buildings were empty and deserted. There was no sign of a struggle, no tracks to show where the Inuit had gone. And when the RCMP arrived to investigate, they found food still hanging in position for cooking fires, but the fires had long been gone and put out. They found frozen sled dogs. So some of the villages like dogs froze to death. Poor buffers.

Yeah. And the most eerie aspect of this whole thing was that they found graves in the burial grounds that had been opened up and emptied. And then the headstones were piled neatly next to the opened graves. The missing people were never found again and the mystery was never solved. In all the things that I read, the RCMP did not provide any theories as to what had happened to the Inuit village.

Natural causes. Pack it up, boys. Yeah. So the graves were opened and the heads were at the top of them. The headstones were piled. Oh, the headstones were piled. So the grave markers were piled. That is bizarre.

Isn’t that crazy? I would be interested to see if I can find newspaper articles for some of this stuff. I feel like that would just be a large rabbit hole that. I could be at some episode.

Yeah. So if you feel so inclined, there is one on this list that I plan to do as an episode. This is near and dear to my heart, but that would be another one that could be fun to do. The next town that I’ll bring up is Horv… Horverde. Horverde?

Yeah. This is another mass disappearance that was discovered this time in 1923. It was a Brazilian village whose 600 residents seem to have disappeared overnight. 600.

600. So on February 5th, 1923, Horverde was supposed to meet up. You guys are going to have to deal with my inability to pronounce Spanish. Have you? How is it spelled? H-O-E-R.

I think that’s never on QQ. Okay. I thought you were trying to say Jorge. No, no. That’s not how you spell Jorge.

That is not how you spell Jorge. Otherwise, I would have been able to get it. On February 5th, 1923, Horverde was supposed to meet up with residents of a neighboring village to trade goods. But when no one from the village showed up, the neighboring village sent a team to investigate.

The searchers found buildings that had all been abandoned and written on a classroom chalkboard was the message there is no salvation. Weird. So when doing a bit of digging, most local Brazilians say that the story is just a folktale and actually the name of the town translates to green horror. Green horror. Green horror. So horror, horror, horror, H-O-E-R is a Dutch word for horror. Wait, does that what hors d’oeuvres are? You know what? They’re like horrors, cakes.

Maybe I have to look that up. And Verde is Portuguese for green. Yeah, I think it’s the same as Spanish.

And it’s pretty close to what it is in French, too. No official records of the town can be found, but the first mention of the town was actually in a Russian communist newspaper. And there were a lot of people theorizing that it started because of this whole thing where like Europe feared the West and North America and South America. And I guess, okay, where is Brazil? Brazil is in South America.

Yeah. So it’s like the largest country. It’s like opposite side.

I think it’s on the East Coast, opposite Chile. So yeah, there’s some people who believe it was because Europe kind of had this weird fear of North America and South America and that they thought all the people there were strange and weird. So this just may have been another case of them trying to make the New World seem sketchy. Oh, so it’s like a ghost stories about the scary inhabitants of the New World.

Yes. And how you could just mysteriously vanish for no reason. They don’t have Jesus over there.

Anything could happen. Yeah. I also found the story of Urkhammer, Iowa. So this town was supposed to be found along Route 41 in America’s Midwest.

In 1929, an article was published in the Clarion Sun Telegraph out of Davenport, Iowa. About two mysterious events that occurred in Urkhammer. So the first was that an airplane was flying overhead and noticed the town looked abandoned.

The fields near the town were overgrown or overtaken with weeds. And then the second one happened a couple of weeks later in which a man reported that he had stopped in Urkhammer to get some gas. But as he drove down the road, he realized that his car wasn’t filled. Like there was no gas in his tank and his car ran out of gas. So the man was furious and he was like, well, I’m going to go walk back to Urkhammer. Because he assumed he’d been scammed and he wanted his money back and he also wanted to. Oh, so he filled up the car. Yes. And then he left and his tank immediately went empty.

Empty. And so he’s like, this is not cool. And so then he decided to walk back to basically have it out with the gas station owner. And when he turned around, he could see the town ahead of him.

But after two hours of walking, he never seemed to get any closer to the town’s limits. Oh, weird. It’s like on a conveyor belt.

Yeah. On a treadmill. Consensus on the Internet is that this town never existed. The newspaper that published the article about the Urkhammer is not a real newspaper.

There’s no records of anything called the Clarion Sun Telegraph. So it’s very likely that it’s an Internet hoax. That being said.

No one on the Internet would lie. Yeah. I’m going to briefly mention the next one because it’s my favorite. And this is the one I’m thinking of doing episode on. This is about the story of the town of Frank. This episode comes out almost actually 121 years to the date of the incident.

The fate of Frank is not a mystery, which is why I think most discussions of Dublin don’t talk about it. But on April 29, 1903, 44 million cubic meters, which equates to 110 million tons of limestone, slid down the neighboring Turtle Mountain. And in approximately 100 seconds, the eastern edge of Frank was completely covered in rock. People misheard the story, think that the whole town was covered, but in fact, it was just a portion of Frank that disappeared. And of course, now it’s been assimilated into the Crohn’s Nest Pass, so it’s not even its own town anymore. Just literally wiped off the map.

Yeah. Literally physically wiped half of it. But there’s still evidence of it being there. And again, I do hope to do an episode on this because there’s paranormal goings on in and around Frank slide area.

But you can always go check it out if you’re curious. I’m also reminded of, I don’t have like all the details, but there’s stories of a town in Russia that back in the Cold War days, USSR, they say either accidentally or on purpose, and that town was nuked by the Russian government. And instead of telling anyone about it, they removed all the signs of the road. They removed it from all the maps they could. They would block the road so no one could go in or out. And it’s just like this big secret that a whole town had just been destroyed. But they just acted like there was never a town there in the first place.

That’s crazy. Which is what you can do when you have a totalitarian government. Honestly, that also has happened in the States before. I couldn’t, there is one town that went missing quote unquote because they built a dam and it flooded the whole town. Oh, okay.

Yeah. But I don’t know if they ever actually disclosed it or people just found out. But the most famous missing village settlement is Roanoke. It all Roanoke. Yeah, disappeared in 1586. Although there’s a city there now.

So if you want to go visit Roanoke, there is a modern day Roanoke. For now. Until that disappears too. Fold of them to build a place on the ruins of another place that disappeared.

Yes. It was discovered abandoned in 1590. Again, I’m going to keep this one a bit short because everyone’s kind of heard the story. But the basic backstory is that it was an English settlement that was set up. And when the colony was starting to struggle with things like lack of food and poor relations with the indigenous communities in the area. A ship was sent to get more supplies. And when the English returned with the supplies, they found that the village had been abandoned.

And the word croat Owen was carved into a tree. And like the buildings had been like, like the fort itself or the settlement itself had been fortified. And like everything just looked normal. There’s just no one was there. Everyone got up and left.

Yeah. The most common theory as to why it was abandoned is likely because of starvation. And that the villagers would have joined up with indigenous tribes in the area of in the hopes of finding food and surviving winter. So although we don’t know for sure what happened, that seems like the most likely. Yep. Some tribe is like, all right, let’s help these dumb Europeans and their poor food collecting ability. They’re not living in your town, so you’re going to move in with us.

Yeah. Just don’t know how to prepare or grow. Plants properly yet.

Hopefully there was some gloating done. The issue with comparing the story of Dublin to most of these missing towns and stories is that they all happened before the 1980s. Like it’s harder to lose a town now than it would have been right back when there’s very few settlements. Like seems like an easier task when there’s very little. Yeah, like definitely if a town’s going missing now, it has to be small because you said like Dublin was like thousands.

Yes. That one article just said thousands disappeared around that time. We would have to lose a town of about 30 people for it to go unnoticed.

Yes, correct. Like it would be so much harder for this to happen now compared to way back then. And before anyone asks us about Langville, Montana, which is supposed to be a small town that disappeared in the early 2000s and it was mentioned in the 2016 Ghostbusters movie. Many people on the internet think that it was actually a promotional stunt orchestrated by the Ghostbusters franchise to sell movie tickets. So there’s no record.

There’s no nothing. I tried to search and the only thing I can see is it was mentioned in Ghostbusters. So just a throwaway line in a movie. So back to Dublin. Over the years, there’ve been like a handful of theories discussing the potential fate of Dublin. There are some who believe that Dublin may have fallen victim to the Mandela effect and subsequently disappeared into another dimension. Oh, they’re in the Bernstein universe.

Yeah. And not the Bernstein universe. Although that theory is intriguing, will we ever be able to prove? I want to go back. The world is so backwards now that we’ve figured out the proper name for the Bernstein Bears. But they didn’t have a pandemic or what else has gone terrible.

Many things. All the celebrities have died. Still alive.

Except for the bad ones. There are many people that think like in several of our stories that I just told that it’s an internet hoax. There’s additionally the theory that it was a fake city put on the map during the 1930s is like a copyright trap. So that was just a common thing for map creators to do. They would put a fake town on the map in the hopes that like if anyone tried to copy their exact map, they would put in that fake town and then you would be able to tell who it was copyrighted from. There are no records or mentions of Dublin before 2015, which is another reason why the internet hoax seems kind of plausible. It just took that long for anyone to notice.

That’s right. Hey, we haven’t seen Uncle Dave from Dublin. Wonder where he went. Some people claim that Dublin is now invisible or it may or maybe the entire town was abducted by aliens. I’d believe aliens before it became invisible. Yeah, I was getting some like I’m trying to think the island from King Arthur’s time that like you couldn’t see.

I can’t remember what that island was, but it just seems so weird. You can’t a whole town can’t go invisible. Like people driving through the town like regular visible people would probably like hitting people walking across the street and not see them. They would hit objects, other cars. Well, not just that, but like if the town is invisible, how are they getting groceries?

How are they getting supplies? Are people able to leave the town and then they’re no longer invisible? It’s Wisconsin, so it snows there.

That’s right. You would see the outlines of everything from the snow. Just suspended on invisible rooftops. I don’t know. That makes very little sense. Whoever thought up that a whole town is just happens to be invisible, try harder with your theories. Yes, there’s the less glamorous theory that locals left the town due to illness or job loss.

Even the idea that maybe the town was absorbed into a neighboring town. Oh yeah, that happens. But it usually like retains the name as like a sub community.

Yeah, correct. Like in Edmonton we have Old Strathcona. So Strathcona was a town that was in I guess on the south end of the river. Edmonton was on the north and now we’re one city, but we still have things listed as Old Strathcona. Yeah, Beverly, Jasper Place. Yeah. These used to be their own places. So it can happen, but someone somewhere would have records that that had occurred.

Yeah. Some people even remember or claim to have remembered hearing that a town in Wisconsin was destroyed by something like a fire, a gas leak, or an earthquake, but no one can find any documentation to show that. It also turned invisible.

Yeah, it turned invisible. The most sound theory to me is that Doverland is the victim of one of Wisconsin’s 900 dams that were constructed. Dam construction has led to flooding and has destroyed entire towns in other parts of the country.

And so we know that this is something that can happen. Now granted, people would still be alive. They wouldn’t just flood the town. Their engineers should have figured out. Someone would have sent out letters.

He would hope. Please move. Your town is about to become a new lake. But the most popular theory seems to be that the town was set up as part of a government project or experiment.

Most people claim that the project was called Sanguine. For blood? I guess. So Project Sanguine was a real or is, was, was a real military project. It was set up to allow for communications with submarines using extremely low frequency radio waves, often referred to as elf waves to lend a bit more credibility to this theory. Wisconsin and Michigan were the chosen locations for two elf towers, which was referred to as Project Elf.

They were built in 1982 and they operated from 1989 to 2004. A man named specialist Jamie Ivanov stated that his father used to live in Dublin and that the town housed a lot of military families. Ivanov, sounds like a Rusky to me. My other thought was he sounded like some sort of like Marvel villain. The other thing that was a little weird about his name is I had to look up what the abbreviation was because it was S P E C T dot and I was like, what even is that as a title? Specter.

So I went to, I thought maybe special ops. Okay. But I went to look it up and it’s specialist. Oh, so you put that on your business cards? Yeah. So it doesn’t even necessarily mean that he is in the military.

It’s just specialist Jamie Ivanov. He confirmed that Dublin was built as part of Project Sanguine and that it was destroyed after some type of incident. Doesn’t elaborate on what type of incident. Some sort of incident. Some sort of incident. Maybe they also accidentally nuked a town and they learned from the Russians that you can just pretend like it never existed.

That’s right. People who have looked into Project Elf point out that there is no record of any towns being disturbed by the project and actually both towers are above ground and located within forested areas. So one was built in Michigan. The other one was built in Wisconsin in forested areas.

No towns in between. We do all know what people think about the military secrets and if it’s a military cover-up, will we ever truly know if they’ll never admit to it? No, of course not. All the documents related to the assassination of JFK should have been open but they still say some of it’s classified. So long ago they’re never gonna. Yeah, they’ll never say. If they actually destroyed a town they’re never gonna say anything. It’s like when your older siblings like I’ve got a secret and like your younger siblings are just tell me maybe I will. Maybe I won’t.

I’ve done this many times to my sisters. And that’s the story of Dublin. So Chris, what do you think is the most likely theory of the ones that I suggested? I would say that I do think the idea that it’s in the parallel Mandela universe is pretty cool.

And that this universe we’ve all found ourselves in now it just never got built. But I’d say most likely is that maybe it’s the more mundane version of the Mandela effect where people just happen to misremember something like misheard song lyrics or something. Like maybe there is a town around there that kind of sounds like Dublin if you’re talking really fast with an accent. That’s definitely possible. Yeah. And like all those people that are online right now being like oh you can find t-shirts whatever from there.

It’s the internet people. You can make t-shirts of whatever the hell you want. It’s true.

I do all the time. Like it’s not it’s not really evidence of anything. It kind of reminds me of that TV show Channel Zero and they had the TV show in the show that everyone like kind of remembered. But real people who are watching Channel Zero in the real world were also like wait I have seen that show.

I was one of those people and it still weirds me out but yeah so that was the story of Dublin. That was really cool. Well thank you for that one. We’ll feed in the town of Dublin into the Curse-O-Meter here determine how cursed is Dublin.

Please stand by. And the results are it’s probably benign. No one’s been like searching for their relative who disappeared in Dublin.

No and of all the stories out there this one seems pretty un upsetting. It just it’s gone but nobody seems to know where it went. One day someone’s gonna like whack their knee on an invisible car and they’re like wait here it is and then we’ll reconnect with the people of Dublin.

Yeah. Like what if a whole town did turn invisible but they didn’t stay there and there’s invisible people who just sort of fanned out across the country from that spot walking around doing stuff without anyone noticing them. I mean at that point for everyone to turn invisible it’s definitely got to be a military experiment testing cloaking devices. And can all the people of Dublin see each other or are they also invisible to each other? Just walking a lonely road as ghosts has one gone to the UK and tried to steal someone’s oddie. Is that maybe all that ghosts are or just the invisible residents of Dublin? Getting older.

A bunch of invisible senior citizens. That’s right. All right well that takes us to the end of this month’s episode of Probably Cursed. Tune in to us at the first of next month for our next episode. The only teaser I will give is that we discuss one of the sweetest ways to die. Leave it right there. As always if you have any episode suggestions for us or want to get into contact with us to give us something that we could add to our Probably Cursed Museum you can email us at probablycursedpodcast@gmail.com. Thank you for listening everyone. Thank you very much.