For today’s Curse-O-Meter testing we submit the third and final segment of the Mel’s Hole Saga, a demonic McDonalds slaying, an octogenarian’s giant mutant sheep, and how your good looks can get you kidnapped.
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:
Welcome, Probably Cursed listeners. For today’s Curse-O-Meter testing, we submit the third and final segment of the Mel’s Hole saga. Also, a demonic McDonald’s slang, an octogenarian’s giant mutant sheep, and how your good looks can get you kidnapped. I’m your Probably Cursed host, Chris.
And I’m Sheryl. And those of you who follow our social media, you’ll probably be very happy to hear that we survived our night in the very haunted Longview Hotel. Well, no ghosts that we could see, even though there was what, six or seven supposed to be in that building? Yeah, something like that. The scariest thing on that trip was the blizzard conditions on the highway, though.
I would argue the electrical noises coming from the wall was pretty eerie, too.
Oh, right, the buzzing. The buzzing inside the walls. Didn’t that happen in the Amityville house? It might have. We just weren’t there long enough.
That goes to show, ladies and gentlemen, if you have a weird buzzing in your house, consult with an electrician.
It’s true. It’s probably an electrical fire and not a demon. A priest is not going to fix your electrical problems. To start off the episode, we’re going to calibrate our Curse-O-Meter like we always do. We feed it stories from the recent news, and we get our Curse-O-Meter to just give us a vague reading on how cursed or uncursed they are. I’ll activate the machine now.
This article is titled Murder Suspect Tells Court. We share the planet with angels and demons. This is an article that was published on February 27th, 2024. It was by Kevin Martin, and it was produced for the Calgary Herald. Local. Local news.
Local news. To us. Shout out to our fellow Albertans.
Get ready for a wild trip. Solomain Elbeta is suspected of killing his McDonald co-worker in Sundry, Alberta. He testifies in court that the world is populated by angels, spirits, and demons, the latter of which are responsible for human conflict. While being questioned by his lawyer during court proceedings, Elbeta admitted to slashing the neck of his co-worker Joshua Burns, claiming that it was demons who were responsible for his actions.
Do you believe in angels, spirits, and demons? Elbeta’s lawyer asked him. Yes, he said. I believe we live in the same world. Whenever there’s tension, whenever there’s stress, there’s a demon behind it, Elbeta says. Eventually we’re going to have a problem, and that problem is human flaw. Angels create good feelings, which can combat demons, he told the court.
Good vibes. Kill the demons.
Somebody has been watching too much Touch By An Angel. Did that happen in that show? I mean, there’s a little bit of that. When they send that good feeling, a demon just flies away. Elbeta’s lawyer is now looking to have his client not permanently responsible by reason of insanity.
That’s a good tactic. When your client is claiming that it was the demon that made me do it, probably the only course you can take.
This reminds me of that court case the devil made me do it, which Ed Lorraine Warren were part of.
Alright, conjuring three.
Yeah, I can’t remember what the real outcome versus the movie outcome was, but I feel like they had to prove that demonic possession was a real thing, and that seems hard to do. Mental insanity is probably the better way to go.
Yep, well that was the first story fed into the Curse-O-Meter. We’ll feed in a second story here. This is by Sarah Newey. She wrote this on March 18th for the Sydney Morning Herald. More than 800 good-looking people rescued from Love Scam Center. Hundreds of good-looking men and women have been rescued during a police raid in the Philippines from a Love Scam Center.
I would like to point out that good-looking men and women is written in air quotes. It’s subjective people.
Maybe the editor was looking at the photos and they’re like meh. Five, maybe six tops. Not a ten. The attractive people were lured to the compound north of Manila with the promise of well-paying jobs. But when they arrived, their passports were taken and they were coerced into operating online scams or face violence. Workers who failed to achieve daily quotas were physically harmed, deprived of sleep, or locked up inside their rooms, which seems probably the best of the options. I mean, for being treated poorly.
No, this is true. Sorry, I’m processing a thought in my head right now. I mean, they’re probably not lying about the well-paying jobs part. The scammers probably get paid lots of money for their romance scams. It’s true. Although I don’t know how much of it the actual people being coerced are seeing.
Well, based on the article I’m thinking they’re seeing zero of the dollars. I think they were just… They’re probably just getting fed and watered so they’re being paid like how you would pay a slave.
Mm-hmm. During their ordeal, they were forced to send sweet nothings to online scam victims, asking them questions about their day and what they were eating according to a spokesman for the Presidential Commission against organized crime.
There’s no better way to flirt with someone than ask them what they’re eating.
Which eaten handsome. They were forced to send photos to cultivate a strong relationship in order to get other victims to invest in fake schemes, cryptocurrencies, or businesses. The compound was brought to the police’s attention after a Vietnamese man climbed the wall to escape.
That probably brought some attention. In the ensuing police raid, police rescued 432 Chinese nationals, 371 Filipinos, and 72 others from various countries as far away as Rwanda. They also arrested eight suspects for illegal detention and human trafficking. Scam centers just like this one have proliferated since the pandemic across Southeast Asia. With the UN estimating last August that hundreds of thousands of people from around the world have been tricked into similar compounds.
Is it happening since the pandemic because they realize that the government could force everyone to stay inside and they’re like, you know what, that’s a great idea. Let’s force everyone to stay inside.
Oh yeah, you can’t go outside. Maybe like they’re kidnapped during the pandemic and they’ve been there for years. Oh, maybe. They don’t know that we’re more or less fine now, more or less. That is our second story. Sheryl, we’ll feed in one more story into our Curse-O-Meter here for calibration.
This article is from Leah Sarno from March 14th, 2024 for ABC News. And the article is titled, 80 year old man pleads guilty to genetically engineering giant hybrid sheep. Some weird science. Genetic hybridization is such a loose term. After being caught in a decade long scheme to breed giant sheep, Arthur Jack Schubert of Vaughan, Montana, pled guilty to two felony wildlife crimes. Schubert conspired with at least five other individuals to genetically engineer a large hybrid sheep species that would garner higher prices from shooting reserves to be hunted as trophies. To create the humongous sheep, Schubert imported parts of Marco Polo… Argale. Argale sheep, the largest sheep species in the world, and sent it to a lab to create cloned embryos, which he implanted into female sheep on his ranch. The result was a single male offspring named Montana Mountain King, and then began a program of using it to artificially impregnate various other sheep species, as well as selling the semen directly to other breeders. Schubert faces maximum penalty of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 for each count.
You know, for all the news, like this has been talked about a lot lately, I’ve not been able to find any video of how enormously sheep are. Like, if they’re as big as a house, if they’re as big as a mountain.
Yeah, my other question about the whole thing is, like, I thought clones weren’t viable. Like, maybe cloning has changed since the last time I remember.
Maybe you just need them to be viable long enough to impregnate one other sheep. One other sheep. That’s fair. I bet it’ll all come out in a documentary in the future. Netflix is slowly going to get on this. Oh, 100%. Now, I wonder how he got caught. Like, was he just making by my giant sheep Facebook marketplace posts? Or did they just, like, look north and then see over the mountain ranges a Titanic sheep looking over the edge down at everyone?
I mean, he was selling sheep semen, so I would imagine that that probably raised some eyebrows, depending on where he was advertising that.
Maybe it was a way of selling it, too. Approaching people in bars. Someone finally called the cops. Right, so we have those new stories input into our Curse-O-Meter now. We’re going to get it to tally the results. This is our Lord Canarvon Curse-O-Meter, which is built with AI abilities to determine the cursiveness of the stories, artifacts, objects, places. Basically, the topics we talk about on this show. We will get it to give us our results now. Please stand by.
And for our first story about the demonic slaying in the McDonald’s, our Curse-O-Meter says the result is… Probably Cursed. Probably Cursed. It’s bad enough working for McDonald’s.
Or any fast food for that matter.
And now you got demons coming after you. Your co-worker is coming to attack you with, you know, I’m not quite sure if the article said how he killed him. He just slashed his neck.
Yeah, I mean, I would assume if it was a McDonald’s, maybe it was like a plastic knife used for pancakes or… Trying to think what else, other cutlery.
The Mc-chete. For our second story about the scam centers kidnapping good-looking people to make them commit more scams. The Curse-O-Meter says the results for this are the real curses people.
It’s true. I think that the Curse-O-Meter is right on this one. I don’t traffic people. Don’t force them to love scams.
And the next time a beautiful person tells you that it’s hard being so good-looking, take them for their word. Because they’re probably avoiding being kidnapped all the time to be worked in scam centers. And for the third story about the mutant mountain sheep of Montana, the Curse-O-Meter says the real curse is people.
Yeah, don’t take sheep parts and use them as genetically-clone, massive sheep. This doesn’t sound like a good idea, guys.
Yeah, don’t make frankensheep. No. That is definitely the lesson we hope you take home from today’s episode.
I want to point out that the Marco Polo sheep is actually an endangered species. So I don’t know where he got those sheep parts from, but I suspect that’s also illegal. Oh yeah.
Shame, shame. Shoe bar. Well, that wraps up the calibration segment. Before we get to the main topic of our episode, we’ll head over to the Probably Cursed museum and gift shop for today’s artifact getting dropped onto our Etsy shop.
Today’s item for the Probably Cursed museum and gift shop is a turn-of-the-century electrotherapy device. More precisely, and Chris tried to get a precise description. It is a galvanic battery electrotherapy device.
Yeah, there’s like no writing on the box anywhere, so like I couldn’t figure out who the manufacturer was, although someone was probably making it in their home workshop way back when.
I mean, these things were so sketchy back then. Back in olden times before people got their medical quackery from TikTok, people used devices like these in a variety of ways to treat things such as pain, depression, muscle stiffness, arthritis, vitality, wound healing, and also to improve the efficacy of medication by ionizing it for faster treatment.
I’m not sure how that works, but that’s what a lot of people said made medicine better. It was like a medicine booster.
I’m wondering if it comes from the same idea of like plating metals, right? Like you need electrical current to plate some metals, so maybe people thought that the medication would bind with your blood or some random…
So you’d medic-medica plate?
Yeah, your blood cells. So basically the idea is that these types of machines just made everything better. That being said, I mean it probably doesn’t really do much at all. There’s no real evidence of it doing any of the things that it claimed.
Just like TikTok quackery.
The device that we have is in a bit of a rough shape compared to a lot of the other ones we would find online. The wooden box it comes in is very weathered, but the hinges and clasps are all intact and working. The two cover rods, which we assume you were supposed to hold them while you were doing the electric therapy, have some fraying on the wires and some of the internal metal components are oxidized or resting. Does it still work, you might ask? Well, we’re too afraid to try out, especially with the fraying wires. As much fun as it would be to see if it electrocuted us right now, currently in its state, it would definitely electrocute us.
Or start a fire. Or both.
Probably both at the same time.
What would kill you first? The fire or your heart stopping?
Whoever ends up buying it from our online gift shop at probablycursed.etsy.com, we strongly advise don’t even try to see if it works.
Don’t try it. You’ll be tempted.
It’s just bad news, guys. Anecdotal accounts of people using this sort of device have said that you might feel a tingling or discomfort while it is in use. And it is far more likely to be the category of, it will kill you and hurt the whole time while you’re dying.
Especially in its current condition, as mentioned before. I don’t know how many disclaimers, but we’ll put as many disclaimers as required to not get us in trouble if somebody decides to try this out.
Don’t try and cure yourself with turn of the century electronics.
Yeah, just don’t do it. Is it haunted? We can’t truly say. Our collection of items has been getting bigger and bigger, and it’s hard to attribute the bizarre things occurring in our home to a single item.
But I would suggest that you could call this one a bonafide ghost maker for two reasons. Actually, I’m going to say three reasons. Okay. One, the dangers I mentioned before.
Again, it’s falling apart. Two, people who turned to medical quackery devices like these often use them exclusively to treat their ailments and shun real doctors could very likely provide a much better outcome than mildly electrocuting yourself can. And three, the amount of wear and tear on this item says to me that it must have been used a crazy amount of times. Oh yeah. Like, that’s if you found one that was in pre-esteem condition, chances are no one ever used it.
It just sat in the shelf like some kitchen appliance you thought you would use all the time.
Yeah, like, but the fact that ours is practically falling apart and some of the stuff inside is oxidized, I think it’s got to have been used a fair bit.
This person probably did it with their morning coffee.
Yeah. They just bought their own at home kit for curing who knows consumption.
I mean, it got rid of your depression and your arthritis. Right. It gave you vitality from what I read, whatever that means.
So if you wanted to live forever and you thought that this box would do that for you, I suspect, yeah, that’s what happened.
There’s also the possibility of someone use it so many times, their soul will get uploaded into your body and you’ll get booted out the first time you try using it. And then there’s some 1900s yokel wandering around in your body in your house touching your things.
It’s unable to discern what the hell a cell phone is or any of the other technology. You’ll come back into your body 20 years later married to an 18 year old girl and with your cell phone crunched to pieces and just don’t do it.
That is the end of our museum gift shop portion. Sheryl said you can go to our online store at probablycursed.etsy.com and you can get this brand new artifact from our collection. So my brand new brand new to us and even more brand new to you.
If you’ve got anything of your own that you would like to send over to us at the Probably Cursed podcast so that we can use it to fund our future haunted museum. You can send us a little drop as a message through Instagram or you can contact us via email at probablycursedpodcast@gmail.com.
And now on to our main episode topic. Part three, the third and final part of the Mel’s whole saga. First a short recap for those of you who refuse to listen to our earlier episodes. In 1997 Mel Waters found a seemingly bottomless pit on his land in Washington state. The hole can shoot black beams into the sky and even brought a dog back to life.
Allegedly. Mel tried to measure the depth with fishing line and after 80,000 feet and no bottom to be found, he goes on to the paranormal radio show Coast to Coast AM to talk about it to get help. And within a week of him being on the radio, the US government seizes his property and pays Mel a quarter million a month to lease his land. Mel moves to Australia where he starts a wombat rescue in a medicinal plant research facility. And two years later he makes a return visit to the US to help his nephew move. During which he is kidnapped for 12 days and hands his wallet, belt buckle and teeth stolen.
What happened to those poor wombats?
You know, I don’t know. He also finds out all his Australian facilities are closed and all his money is gone. Afterwards Mel moves to the Pacific Northwest and in August of 2001 he is diagnosed with terminal esophageal cancer with six months to live.
And if you need more context for any of those points, now you have to listen to parts 1 and 2. So, things were left on a down note last episode, but a new twist to the Mel’s Hole saga is already beginning. It’s about to get wild, people. Wild.
Wilder than you could expect. It’s like take all those previous plot points and times it by 100. So, an unnamed Native American group in Northern Nevada has heard a rerun of one of Mel’s original interviews, and they invite him to visit their reserve to discuss Mel Waters’ plant research. Mel accepts, and they meet up in September of 2001, and they discuss his plant work.
And eventually the conversation moves towards the topic of Mel’s Hole, and they reveal to Mel they know of a similar Hole. It’s not on their reserve, it’s way out in public land, and a lot of Nevada is basically government managed and is mostly empty. But there’s a settlement of Basque people that have been letting their sheep in cattle graze around the area of a mysterious hole since the 1800s. And they’ve found, just like Mel’s Hole in Washington, animals refuse to approach the Hole.
Mel wants to go see it, so they all get up and go. And when they get there, he sees that the Hole is roughly the same diameter as the Hole he had back in Washington. But instead of the stone retaining wall that was on the Washington Hole, this one has a metal collar that extends downward into the Hole as far as the eye can see. The Basque people claim that this Hole has been seen casting a black beam into the sky, just like the one in Washington. And they also claim that the area around the Hole always seems to be warm, warm enough to cap comfortably next to during the Nevada winters. And that anything that hits the collar or enters the Hole also makes no sound.
This is why governments don’t want us to have access to geothermal. They don’t want black beams of light to go into your house and ruining all your appliances.
It’s true. Blocking the view of beautiful mountains. Scaring the birds. That’s right. I wonder what happens if you get hit with the black beam. Are you just in the dark? For like a second?
I mean, they describe it as warmth, so maybe it’s like being in the womb again.
Oh, maybe. Maybe like all your hair gets burnt off. Yeah. And you are like a newborn baby. All smooth. So maybe Mel’s personality now is tied to bottomless holes. Or it’s a distraction from his terminal illness. But Mel decides he wants to study this new Nevada Hole. The Basque have never done any of their own studies of the Hole themselves, but they decide to help Mel out. First, Mel decides he wants to determine if the interior of the Hole is warmer than the outside. He gets two buckets of ice.
One is kept on the surface and the other is lowered 1500 feet into the Hole. The idea is to wait a while, about a half hour, and then compare the melt rates of each bucket. However, when he pulls the bucket out of the Hole, he finds none of the ice has melted. Weird or still, the unmelted ice isn’t even cold. It doesn’t melt or deform in his hand when he holds it.
It’s body temperature. And they hold a piece over an open flame, and it catches fire with very, very faint flames. They drop that burning piece of ice into the bucket with the rest, and the other pieces also catch on fire. And this is weird, so they repeat the experiment a few more times with more ice they get from a nearby convenience store. And they’re finding only about a third of the time the mysterious ice is created. The other two times it’s like regular cold ice unmelted, or it’s just water. They pull it out. At this point, they’re pondering what to do next. And one of the group volunteers to be lowered into the Hole.
Similar to our item from the Probably Curse Museum, don’t ask to be volunteered into a mysterious Hole that randomly turns things into a state of matter that makes no logical sign sense.
Just don’t do it. People much like ice are also made of water. So what happens when they pull you out? Will you be frozen solid?
Or will your blood vessels have turned into being filled with some sort of liquid that’s neither solid nor liquid?
Turns you into wine. Yeah. Did you ever see that online comic where it’s like Jesus is showing off how he can turn water into wine and he accidentally touches someone and the person immediately dies of alcohol poisoning?
No. That’s pretty funny.
So everyone immediately disagrees with letting this guy be lowered into the Hole. Call them a dummy. They tell them this is the dumbest thing they ever heard. But instead, they decide to lower in a sheep. I don’t know if it was one of the Montana Mountain Kings or just a regular sheep, but the sheep that you’re picturing in your mind, it’s one of those. Now everyone knows at this point animals refuse to go near the Hole. So one of the group goes over and strikes a sheep in the head, stunning it. They stuff the sheep into a crate and then they bring the crate over to the Hole. As they’re bringing it over to the Hole, the sheep wakes up and starts freaking the heck out.
It’s terrified, it’s making screaming noises. As they attach a cable to the crate and they lift it up, the crate is jostling around violently from the panicking sheep. And they lower it into the Hole. And after a while, they notice there’s no more jostling sway to the cable. The movement inside the crate has stopped. And for half an hour, the crate hangs 1500 feet into the Hole with no movement. When they pull it up and open it, they see the sheep has died.
From fright, probably.
Well, we’re gonna get into it. Okay. The picnic table autopsy that they perform next is a little bit unclear. I’m sure. So curiosity getting the better of them. The group places the sheep on a table and cut it open to see how it died. Weirdly, under its skin, the meat is hot and almost cooked. So sheep also made of mostly water. Don’t jump into strange holes, people.
Nope. In weirder still, they find the body cavity of the sheep is almost entirely filled up by an enormous pulsating jelly-like tumorous mass. They remove the mass and cut that open to reveal a shocking sight. It’s a living creature inside it. And this is quickly turning into a Russian nesting doll of what the fuck.
Did they know if the sheep was a female or a male?
They didn’t say. Good to know. They just said sheep. Mel in the radio interview was mostly sad about how the sheep was treated. First getting punched in the head. He had no say in it. They just sort of decided. Yeah. So I guess his coke experimenters were getting away from him.
That’s just part of me that’s wondering if this is like their backyard scientists. What if they just didn’t realize the sheep was pregnant to begin with?
Well, the best people were sheep herders. Sure. So hopefully they’ve been paying attention to the sheep they’ve been looking after for generations. Unless they just decide, you know, one day you wake up and you got more sheep. Little ones then they get big like the others. Yep. So the creature that comes out of this tumorous mass, Mel says it looks just like a seal fetus. But with the distinction that this seal fetus has human eyes.
How does? How does Mel know what a seal fetus looks like?
Well, in Mel’s previous life to Mel’s whole and like one of the reasons why he has all the fishing line for his experiments is I think he said he was a shark fisherman. Okay, that makes sense. So he probably encountered seal or two.
Yeah. And a seal fetus. I don’t know how often you come across seal fetuses when you’re working in the Pacific. No, neither do I. In the case of Mel, at least once.
And then with the human eyes part is does that obviously then means we’ve got like a colored part and then the iris in the center instead of just a black eye like a seal would have.
He doesn’t really describe it. Okay. He just describes it as looking like very human. Like you look at it and you’re like that’s people eyes. Okay. So the group stare at the creature as it wriggles its way to the edge of the table and Mel suddenly feels compelled to help it. He grabs it and sets it on the ground and there’s a residue on his fingers that smell like ozone. And for a long time the creature lies on the ground looking at everyone in the group one at a time. And when it looks at Mel, Mel again feels compelled to help the creature feeling like it wants to go to the hole. And he carries it over placing it onto the rim of the metal collar. The weird baby seal fetus looks at the men one last time, nods its head and dives in.
I have many, many questions, although most of them will probably go unanswered. But does that mean the gestation period for these baby seal fetuses is like 12 hours?
I mean it was kind of right away like because they had the sheep lowered in the hole for about half an hour. Yeah. So very quick.
Well I thought you said it was in there for 15 hours.
Oh if I said that I misspoke
it was only in there for about a half hour. Half hour? Wow. I’m going to ask you a biologist question but or in the style of an ancient alien researcher. Can science explain how a weird baby seal grows inside a sheep inside a half hour? Nope, sure can’t.
Science cannot explain this weird mystical baby seal. After the weird baby seal fetus monster with human eyes jumps into the well, the group stops their experiments. It’s too much. They toss the remains of the sheep that they had cut open into the hole and they toss in most of the fire ice as well. Except for one bucket that one of the Basque men decides to take home with him. And Mel goes back home to the US and returning he goes for a checkup to his doctor and his doctor tells him that his cancer is entirely gone.
It was probably the seal fetus. It was a way of saying thank you.
And that’s what Mel actually believes. Really? He attributes his cancer emission to the weird baby seal.
Wow. Look at me go I could be conspiracy theorist in my free time.
I mean you’re halfway there with a podcast just like this. That’s fair. Sometime later after that Mel remembers that the Basque people had given him a parting gift and he opens it and it’s a coin exactly like the ones he found around the hole back in Washington. The one with the strange markings that don’t match what the federal mint makes. And around this time the events of 9-11 occur. The world’s plunging to chaos and Mel didn’t get a chance to tell much of this story or tell any of the story until January on coast to coast AM of the following year. That was January 2002 where he told the story and the following December of 2002 Mel appears one more time on coast to coast AM for one final update. So after Mel left Nevada the man who had taken the bucket of fire ice home has been using it to heat his house because there’s a little bit of warmth coming off of this bucket.
This is a terrible idea guys.
Yep I’m in kudos to him for trying to find out alternative energy methods for heating his home. Sheryl’s shaking her head.
Yeah because like it gave off a weird smell you don’t know what it is what chemicals it’s releasing it’s just a bad idea.
Yeah well the weird smell came off the baby seal. I suppose but. But the rest of it is likely very true. Yeah. Could be radioactive.
It’s fine.
So he’s using this to heat his house but strangely over the months the air in his home is becoming incredibly dry. The guy finds he’s always thirsty and his skin also seems to be drying out. In one night he notices the steam from his kettle is being drawn inside the wood stove where he keeps the fire ice.
It’s sucking in the moisture the ambient moisture in his home. Days later he returns home and the wood stove is collapsed through the floor. The wooden floor completely disintegrated below it. And in another two weeks he comes home to see his house is entirely in ruins. All the wood in his home is completely dried out and it’s crumbling into dust. It’s just desiccated. And a month later all that is left of his home is the wood stove which is now sunk into a hole five feet deep into the earth.
Surprised he didn’t try to remove the stove when it when he first noticed the hole in his house. Like at that point it would be time to just be like you know what.
Oh like when it fell through the floor. Yeah. Well in the interview he said that because it had fallen through the floor the chimney to the wood stove wasn’t attached anymore. So we just got extra tin and made the chimney longer. And sort of left it at that.
I don’t know. Again bad idea people. If it’s starting to eat a hole in your floor maybe get it out of your house. It’s true. Don’t just sit there and watch it continue.
Yeah don’t think it’ll be fine. Uh huh. These things they escalate quickly. Especially when bizarre mysterious ice that you’ve brought home has seems to be sucking in all the steam from your kettle. They notice that this wood stove is sinking into the earth.
It’s making what appears to be a new hole. They don’t know what to do and they call Mel. And when Mel finds out he doesn’t know what to do either.
But he thinks he does know who knows what to do. And he calls one of his government contacts from his time with the first hole back in Washington. And his contact is shocked to hear about another hole. And immediately urges Mel to tell them where it is. And a scientific or possibly military crew arrives in Nevada with heavy cranes to lift the wood stove out of the hole. But they seem to be unable to do more than break off pieces in the process.
And the Basque people watching the whole operation nearby. They tell Mel that the scientists finally were able to remove it by filling the hole with chains and water and lifting it all out with multiple cranes. It’s hauled away and not seen again. And we don’t know what happens with the Nevada hole or if that land was blocked off just like Mel’s hole. And as for the weird seal creature it returns to the Basque people occasionally. And they discover they are able to communicate with it by placing a boom box near it. And its voice can be heard through the speakers.
Nice. And it tells them troubling things. Fox news. It’s true.
Maybe it is the COO of Fox News now. Does pretty much have a lot of like gloom and doom. Yep.
End of the world predictions for people. Yep. Because it tells them the ice is powerful. And if it’s used greedily and undisciplined it can and will destroy the world. And it also tells the Basque people that many intelligent beings have been observing the earth. That the seal creature comes from a race of seal people that monitor the earth. And that they know the earth is on a collision course with disaster. And when it occurs they have plans to jump in and use the power of the ice for themselves. Yeah.
It definitely sounds like a Fox News broadcast.
Just tear off the wig of the person who runs Fox News now. It’s a weird baby seal fetus with human eyes. It’s true. This seal revelation of doom comes at the very end of the radio appearance. And the radio host urges Mel to get scientists involved with studying the creature.
And then that’s where the story ends. Mel Waters has not reappeared since on that radio show or any other. No new news stories about the Washington or Nevada hole have come up. And perhaps the government has them locked down or possibly buried them over so no one else can mess with them.
A quick Google search. You can’t find anything on Mel Waters. There’s no buddy claiming that name. So it’s potential that he didn’t even use his real name. Which you know what if I was going to be telling stories like that I don’t think I’d want to use my real name either.
That’s fair. This was in the late 90s. I do feel like you had a better chance of never being found. Fair. Not like now where like anybody can Google your name.
But like how old was he when this all began.
They don’t state his age. His voice he could be he didn’t sound old. So maybe less than 50.
Because he would still be alive now. I mean he’d probably be in his 70s. But he’d still be alive.
Cancer free. Yeah. No one’s been able to track him down. No one’s ever come forward saying that they were the Mel Waters. I guess the only identifying characteristic was they all of his molars were stolen. So you just got to find a guy with false teeth with just regular front teeth.
And some random homemade belt buckles. Yeah.
Oh no the the Treasury Department stole those. How old? Stole confiscated when you’re an official. It’s the official term for stealing. There’s nothing to say he didn’t make more. That’s true. He did get that new coin from the Basque people. Maybe he made one more belt buckle. Just for him. If you have a weird old uncle with strange tales of holes and baby seal monsters and missing teeth.
Get in touch with us because we would like to know how Mel’s doing these days. And if you ever track down his wife and if she is getting that sweet sweet government whole money.
Also be careful people online. You can find a lot of people who are currently still looking for Mel’s hole. And there are a lot of conspiracy theories online as to where it is and what is going on. If you’re going to enter some of those groups and start doing your own digging slash exploration. Watch out there’s crazies out there.
And don’t just wander on people’s private land. No. It’s America. They feel like they have the right to shoot you whether or not it’s actually true. That’s correct. That is the third and final segment of Mel’s hole. I’m going to load that story into the Curse-O-Meter here. And it will tell us whether the Nevada hole and its corresponding baby Nevada hole is cursed. Please stand by.
And the result of the Curse-O-Meter is result is it’s definitely cursed.
Yeah with all the random stuff that came out of that hole and how animals didn’t want anything to do with it. That’s definitely not something you want in your own backyard.
It’s true. Animals can sense evil. If you want examples of that you can watch our TikTok or Instagram. We test all of our Probably Cursed artifacts on the animals in our very own house to see how evil they are. I think so far the bird seems most adept at identifying evil.
I think both the dog and the rabbit are like is that edible? Nope. K-bye.
Yeah definitely cursed. One guy lost his house. The people who live around the hole are just visited by a weird seal creature that tells them the world is going to end and one guy got cured of cancer.
That’s a bit of a silver lining but he lost everything in the process like his teeth, his life, his…
It’s true. So these sort of came out even Steven’s. So that wraps up the three parter. After this we will move on to stories of different weirder natures. Our next episode will be released on May 1st. And until next time this is your Probably Cursed host Chris. And this is Sheryl signing off.
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